(Van Rama Thawnthu) A Story in Heaven: Why is There Disobedience or Crime?

December 30th, 2012 2:55 pm by S
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   As we all love to hear stories, this time let us learn a true story which started in the Heaven of God. After all, true stories are also stories, and they make more sense to us than made up or fiction stories, as they are usually useful and sometimes saves us. So, here we go on to the post:

   Among those who believe in God, yes, among the people of the world regardless of races and religions, for we all believe in God or at least in some super natural things, these questions are repeated from time to time: Why did God created us just to suffer? Why did God created crime or sin? Why did He make Satan, the Devil? Why did He allow and give Satan the opportunity to deceive Adam and Eve? and many related questions.

   We blame God and ask such questions, sometimes curse Him or spit out blasphemies just because we did not know how all these things started. So, it is necessary to know the story in Heaven so that we can know the Truth and ask wrong questions no more.

Therefore, we have to go back before the beginning of this world, before the creation of human beings and see how sin or crime, adversity, disaster and death begin to exist on this earth.

   The Eternal Omnipotent God, the Father of all things created Jesus Christ in the most beginning and Jesus Christ became His first and eldest child. Then, with Jesus, God the Father created all things, the heavens and Angels including Lucifer perfectly and beautifully, and He so loved them for they are His children which He give birth with His power. written proof

Lucifer was given unique perfect beauty and talents including seven voice which he can use them once at a time and He was placed as the leader, general upon all other angels and to guard or keep the heavens. But he begin to feel proud of himself and desires to sit upon God.

But, as children have the choice to obey or disobey, in other words to make peace or war, love or hate their parents, the children of the Omnipotent God do also have that choice, and they were not nurtured with force but an unlimited or endless love.

Though Lucifer have conscience and know that God and Jesus Christ created all things including him, he decided to rebel against God the Father, and he begin a mutiny against God so that he may be like the Most High in the end.  check out here and also see this

God, with His great endless love, tried His best to reform Lucifer but Lucifer would not repent and reform.   Then, after making all the heavenly things and spend some times with them, again God thought and decided to create human beings like His Image without giving them powers unlike the angels. But He want them to live as gods, king and queen, upon all other living things on earth but prince and princess to Him. And as He usually do, He called on Jesus Christ and told him, “Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.” written proof on Genesis

   Seeing this, seeing that the Omnipotent Father and the first and eldest son Jesus were planning to create a new world, Lucifer being already proud felt jealous of Jesus Christ, who is his elder, and and also God. So, he continue to disagree and false accuse God and spread that he was not included in the new world plan. He wanted to be in it and learn the secret of making living things.   He know it is wrong to be a disobedient or an evil child, he know its wrong to feel discontent, jealous and oppose and accuse God the Father but he continue to fill his hearts with evil: disobedience. So, as usual he complain about God the Father with the new world project to all the angels of God and false accuse Him, then he became Satan the Devil.

One third of the stars = one third of the Angels then sided with him, and so project human beings became one of the great and most important issue in the Heaven of God. It was the talk of the heavens.

Since, God do what He says He was truly going to make human beings. But as an all knowing and full of power, God knows that Lucifer, Satan the Devil will try to deceive human beings after they are created, so God the Father asked, ‘Who will go and save human beings if they ever fall in the deception of Lucifer?’

Then, Jesus replied His Father, ‘I will go Father, I will do whatever you tell me to save them,’ and this was the moment Jesus die for the world in words before the creation of the new world. Thus the scripture, ‘….the lamb slain from the foundation of the world.’ written proof

Since, God is and of love and law, full of love, He did not kill or destroy Satan and His followers before the creation of the world. There must also be a proof for all the world and heavens to see that Satan is evil, the Devil.

   Since the project, human beings and the new world where human beings will live were one of the main issue that make Satan as right and truthful, Satan can try to deceive the world. And he does deceive the world.    After planning everything for the new world of human beings, including a plan if human beings ever fall on Satan deception and commit sins, the human beings world was created by God. God also created the days including the seventh day, the Rest day known as Sabbath and Saturday, as planned. Thus human beings and all living things come to exist including the week, also the month and year.

God also tells Adam, the first man, to love and obey Him if not he will die, there is evil that is sin and death as its wage,  and He give them a very easy law so that they may not sin and die. Adam do also tell it to Eve.

The easy law was just not to eat the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and also touch it not. “15 The Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. 16 And the Lord God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”” written in Genesis The other law was not to work on the seventh day but keep it as rest day and reminder of the creation of the human world.

As Satan was a jealous super being and don’t want men to live forever He, Satan did try his best, and deceive the first man and woman.

He knows that it is easier to deceive others by their desire than let them work to break the law, so he use the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil tree. He did not tell the woman, Eve, to work on the seventh day, or Saturday but to eat a fruit.

When Eve ate the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil tree, half of the world have sinned but it can still be saved if the first man Adam did not ate it.

When Adam know that his wife, being tempted and deceived have sinned, he know he have two choice: to love and obey God his Father or to love and die with his fellow human beings Eve, and also the Devil.

Adam knew if he did not eat the fruit, Eve will die and he will live, but since he also loved her so much, he decided not to love and obey God more than evil and ate the fruit that his love give him, to die with his love, Eve who came to exist after him needless to mention God the Father. check here

Thus the whole world commit sin, and death and its related things, adversity, disaster, pain, hatred, gossip, conspiracy, war and many other things, all that do not belong to eternity and love follow and came to exist in this world as Satan, the Devil has deceived and keep the man and woman, the king and queen of the world as his slave and made himself the king of this world. Yes, since, those who commit crime or sin must die, we human beings who have no power have no more or cannot have eternity anymore which can be obtain from the tree of life but fell to a deep and long sleep and die.

Therefore, the story that begin in heaven and was before the creation of the human world extended and continued in this human world too.

Since, God had in advanced another plan to save and bring back human beings, Adam and Eve became His runaway son and daughter. That’s how all Adam and Eve descendants became runaway children, runaway sons and daughters of God.

Then, as time passed by human beings has forgotten God and His laws as it is today.

So, God again appointed a man called Noah but since the people on Noah’s time did not accept him and his eternal good news, God punish and let all the people have a deep and long sleep, rest by the great flood except the true God believers Noah and his family. It was on 1656 years from the creation of the human world. Yes, again God tried to raise human beings who love and believe Him, who are good and obedient. And again He give the human beings easy laws through Noah. The easy laws are to eat only clean animals and plants but not unclean one including blood, not to kill fellow human beings and many other things including a rest day in a week which was the same old one. written Proof and here

But then again, as time passed by human beings has forgotten God and His laws, God again called out a man named Abraham and chose his generation called Israel as His priest, to be the light of the world so that the world may know Him, the true God.

For the third time, God give easy law known as the Ten Commandments which includes the rest day, Sabbath as reminder of the creation to the world through the chosen people. God had planned this things before He let them come to pass, we may slightly understand from Abraham, who He called him out and tell him that, ‘all peoples on earth will be blessed through you.’

Needless to say the rest of the world but the chosen people breaks the Ten Commandments many times though it is easy to follow as temptation always come to everybody on earth and as human beings can be easily deceived and manipulated because the Devil is always working full time.

So, as God had thought and make a preplan for the world if it ever fall to disobedience, He sent us Jesus Christ in time but first to Israel, His first chosen people. Jesus Christ was The Eternal Blessing for all peoples on earth which God had given to the world through Abraham.

Jesus, the Son of God teach human beings that obedience is the result of love, and the laws of God is a law of love in other words, the action or character of love. So, again He told us to keep the law of God that is The Ten Commandments by telling us that we must love God with all the heart, soul and mind in the first place, and love one another in the second place. check

We may not know but the way to love God is to keep or follow the first 4 Law, where the same Rest Day, the seventh day of the week known as Saturday and also Sabbath which was created and established in the beginning of the creation of the human world  is included for it is the acknowledgement or acceptance that God had created the heavens and earth and all the things including the days and week. And the way to love one another is to keep the last 6 Law, then our love to God will be completed with the faith in Jesus Christ and we will be saved and bestowed eternity which includes eternal life by the Grace of God.

It is needless to repeat that God’s people of the last of the times, in other words the followers of Jesus Christ must eat only the clean animals and plant but not the unclean things because God have given that commandment to Noah and his descendants who He saved from the great flood, and we all are his (Noah) descendants.

Jesus himself confirms what is written above by saying, “If you love me, keep my commandments.” proved it

Of course, if we love God, we will keep His commandments.

Again, the Israel people did not recognise the Son of God, Jesus Christ as Satan’s has blinded them again by deception, so Satan false accused and killed Jesus Christ in the cross using human beings by deceiving and manipulating them.

Since Satan the Devil not only kills human beings through war and many other things, he also killed God, Jesus Christ the Heavenly body and king, son of God the Father it is a proof or evidence that Lucifer the then Satan the Devil was the father and beginning of all sins and crime. So, he was thrown out of Heaven to the world full of sins which he himself created, where he is the king, emperor who controls or manipulate the world. That have been told on my previous post, ‘Things Satan the Devil Cannot Do.’

Since the first chosen people, Israel did not recognise Jesus Christ, the only begotten son of God, God then chose the followers of Jesus Christ to keep the Ten Commandments and spread to the whole world the story of Jesus Christ, the Truth and be the light of the world. proof in Revelation check in Matthew After that the end will come. written proof in Matthew They are now the choosen, the Israelites in the Eyes of God of Love.

As an all knowing and knowing that the peoples on earth can be and were, are and will be easily manipulated by Satan the Devil and as time passes by the peoples on earth will corrupt the teaching of Jesus Christ, God again decided to send to the world His last prophet, and make it known to the world about it through one of His prophets called Malachi. Thus, the message – For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the Lord of hosts.
4 Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:
6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

Knowing these things, many times I’d pray to God to make me as that Elijah of the last of the times but even if I could not be, as I am so great a sinner, I still wanted to be the servant of that Elijah and ask for that. But now I am just the runaway anointed, the runaway son of God as many of us because some among us have returned to God by keeping the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus Christ as written here. And they must be patient and determined (see), therefore they must be well educated in the knowledge and practice of the Truth.

The said Elijah, the last prophet of God is the second prophet that comes after the first, and this have been prophesied by Daniel and John of Patmos. They have prophesied that there are two prophets of God that will come in the last of the times, after Jesus Christ have died for the world, raised up and taken up or went to Heaven. Prove it on the book of Daniel who was taken to Babylon and Revelation.

E. G. White prophesied that the two witnesses was the Old and New Testament because that was what God revealed to her, and it was true. But, as many parts in the Bible are meant for two or more applications, the two witnesses are also likewise and it is meant for three application as far as I know but may be more.

One is the Old and New Testament, in other words the prophets or appointed people of God that write the Old and New Testament. The other is the last two prophets of God, E. G. White herself is one of and the first prophet and the other is Elijah who will come before the great and dreadful day of God, who asked how long will it be before the astonishing things are fulfilled as written in Daniel chapter twelve. And, the third one on which it is meant to apply is those who believed, accept and follow in the testimony of the Two Witnesses or in what they testify.

The great and dreadful day of God, when God will punish the whole world will follow. The six of the seven Angels will sound their six trumpets.

But before such time comes let the world know that the end of the world is very near and return to God the Father in Heaven and be His patient and faithful sons and daughters, for the end of the world is near and as the righteous will continue to be righteous and evil will continue to be evil in the great and dreadful day of the Lord. The great trials and tribulations for the people of God will also come.

The last 1260 days for the people of God to prophecy will also come. With the Holy Spirit, God’s Spirit in other words, with Angels of God the Two Witnesses will prophesy for a time, times and half a time = 3 and half years = 42 months = 1260 days with humbleness and willingness.

Yes, the Two Witnesses of God will preach the Gospel as they do miracles.

Even children will have the power of God.

After the prophecy, the past and to be the future world beast (coldblooded leader) that comes from the Abyss (= peoples), the world leader known as Pope will again falsely accuse, condemned and with violence, kill the faithful, the Two Witnesses of God who keep the easy law and the faith of Jesus Christ in Jerusalem where their Lord Jesus Christ was crucified. “9 For three and a half days some from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. 10 The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth.” it is written Revelation 11

“11 But after the three and a half days the breath[b] of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them. 12 Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on.

Let’s pray fervently my fellow human beings so that we can have an open and willing hearts before 1260 days come to pass! For, Jesus Christ, the Begotten Faithful Son of God, as was planned from the foundation of the world and as was, is and will be proclaimed, will come with His Glory and take His true followers, who follow things written here, with Him to the Beautiful and Perfect Heaven of God. And, curse will be upon us, the runaway children if we don’t have an open and willing heart and returned to Him, the King of kings and Lord of lords.

Yes, after the three and a half day, the Two Witnesses of God and Jesus Christ will hear their Saviour Voice as He come to take, bless and give them Eternity, “Come up here you who are faithful to Me.”

13 At that very hour there was a severe earthquake and a tenth of the city collapsed. Seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake, and the survivors were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven. And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies (the violence loving people who follow and obey the Beast) looked on.

14 The second woe has passed; the third woe is coming soon.”

The Mysteries of God are accomplished the seventh Angel of God will blow his trumpet.

“The Seventh Trumpet

15 The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said:

“The kingdom of the world has become
the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah,
and he will reign for ever and ever.”

16 And the twenty-four elders, who were seated on their thrones before God, fell on their faces and worshiped God,17 saying:

“We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty,
the One who is and who was,
because you have taken your great power
and have begun to reign.
18 The nations were angry,
and your wrath has come.
The time has come for judging the dead,
and for rewarding your servants the prophets
and your people who revere your name,
both great and small—
and for destroying those who destroy the earth.”

19 Then God’s temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. (The easy law, the Ten Commandments written by the hands of God is shown to all the peoples of the world.) And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a severe hailstorm.”
   Thoughts for the day

Thoughts are the beginning of all things.

But, Truth cannot be accepted with a reluctant heart, but a willing heart can.

Roughs are diamonds,

Polished are reformed.



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